Thursday, May 12, 2005

Those who can do, those who can't......

In a recent anti Yom Hashoah article posted on the blogspot cross-currents Toby Katz writes a long argument on how and why we can’t observe it. If she weren’t a mechaneches (teacher of Jewish studies) it would be at best impractical. She, however, is a mechaneches- it is downright scary.

This magnificent display of brilliance and sensitivity can be your own child’s teacher. I took out some of the highlights and my letter to her which of course went unanswered; not necessarily because she doesn’t want to but Baruch Hashem I was #49 in the comments. It is imperative that we as responsible parents stop all indignation inflicted on our kids. Any teacher that spews poisons to our pristine link to the future must be curbed. My respectful comments to Ms. Katz:

In a nutshell you claim that Yom Hashoah can’t be distinguished as a day of remembrance because it was a Zionist proposal. You also lay claim that it was the shame of the Holocaust victim that the Zionist is trying to avoid. I don’t know how factual this all is. I also don’t know if this is sufficient of a reason not to be able to use Yom Hashoah as a remembrance. With all due respect it sounds political.

Furthermore, the holocaust is a terribly sensitive issue for the survivors, children, grandchildren and anyone who considers himself a member of the children of Israel. It is also true that it has not been addressed on a large scale by the charedi school of thought. Although Tisha Bav is the most proper time to remember the Holocaust as you point out, it is rarely addressed even on Tisha Bav. If someone wants to read up on it he is welcome to do so but there is no structured source for it in the charedi world. The only avenue is the not charedi avenues. Your suggestion would only have children looking at questionable sources for answers.

You say that you are an educator, presumably to disseminate the Torah and its truths. I am not an educator in any capacity, other than being the father of my kids. Any question that deals with large issues such as the Shoah requires at the very least, the input of Gadol. In your lengthy article you neglect to mention any Gadol’s opinion, just yours. As an educator of any capacity the truth must be the goal for the children to attain. Difficult issues require guidance not rhetoric.

Here is the link and some blurbs: http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2005/05/06/yom-hashoah/

…this date marks the anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and it was chosen by the Israeli government. The secular Zionists who founded the modern State of Israel thought that the Holocaust was shameful and embarrassing—to the Jews. Why had weak and pale Jews gone like sheep to the slaughter? The feeling of shame and humiliation was so strong that for decades after the war, survivors in Israel would not talk about the Holocaust. I’ve heard the same about survivors in America and Canada. The only thing that redeemed Jewish honor, the Zionists thought, was the courage and strength of the Jews who battled German soldiers in the streets of the Warsaw Ghetto. Were all the other Jews cowards and weaklings? Were the young men and women of the Warsaw Ghetto the only Jewish heroes? ….. …. They were ashamed of the shtetl Jews, the yeshiva bochorim who pored over ancient tomes. They thought it was no wonder there was so much anti-Semitism in the world, given how weak and pathetic and cowardly the Jews were. They would fix all that. They would create a New Jew. The New Jew would be brave and self-reliant. There would be a Jewish army and Jewish policemen. Jews would get their hands dirty and work the soil and be productive. They wouldn’t be parasites anymore, living off of other people’s labor in a foreign land. Everyone in the world would admire and respect the New Jew…..

11 Comments:

Blogger AMSHINOVER said...

WHAT SURPRISES ME IS THAT YESHIVISHA BULLSHIT SURPRISES YOU

11:07 AM  
Blogger Shragie said...

1- Whay are you suprised?
2- I am not suprised - I am just smelling the same scent that you picked up from her article ;)

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Reb Berel said...

Now now not all of your teachers were so incompetent

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Stoliner said...

Shragie, in your sagacious opinion, perhaps in conjunction with what Amshinover might think(sans any French in his vocabulary), how does one best relay the lessons of the Holocuast to our kids in Yeshiva? Perhaps time would be better spent thinking of articles to present in class, rather than bashing this woman over the head , and creating more conflict thereby, in our already machlokes ridden community.

4:58 PM  
Blogger Shragie said...

Stoliner

>how does one best relay the lessons of the Holocuast to our kids in Yeshiva?”

Before anything else, the lessons of the Holocaust must be taught. Forget about the best way- as of now there is no way within your standard right winging Yeshiva (Look at my prior post). This “poor” woman suggests we reflect upon the Holocaust once a year – of which she only offers a suggested time but no real medium to accomplish it.

> Perhaps time would be better spent thinking of articles to present in class, rather than bashing this woman over the head , and creating more conflict thereby, in our already machlokes ridden community.

This woman you wish to protect is poisoning young minds with the same divisiveness that you lament. Her main thrust for not using Yom Hashoah is her hatred. She shouldn’t be bashed over the head just helped to find a new vocation.

On the other hand, I am quite confident that Amshi has different views of smashing her head.

All the best,

Shragie

6:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Although Tisha Bav is the most proper time to remember the Holocaust as you point out, it is rarely addressed even on Tisha Bav."
Ridiculous. Every modern Orthodox camp watches holocaust movies on Tisha Bav and nearly every frum woman reads Artscroll/Feldheim/CIS holocaust books. Unfortunately, I believe, the holocaust has actually eclipsed the hurban bet hamkidash as the theme of the day on Tisha Bav.

10:36 AM  
Blogger AMSHINOVER said...

Anonymous saidUnfortunately, I believe, the holocaust has actually eclipsed the hurban bet hamkidash as the theme of the day on Tisha Bav.
It has ecliped chorban bayes as it should.the bais hamikdash is only sticks and stones the krieg was yiddish blood(not my words G-d's in medresh eiacha).Nothing not even moshiach is worth Ayn Tinkla Yiddisha Blit(Rizina's Daughter's words not mine).

10:54 AM  
Blogger Shragie said...

Dear Anonymous

>Ridiculous. Every modern Orthodox camp watches holocaust movies on Tisha Bav

-I specified Charedi School of thought. Your point addresses Modern Orthodox camps. BTW not all kids go to camp.

> nearly every frum woman reads Artscroll/Feldheim/CIS holocaust books

- Is this really so? I have had other experiences. Even if it were so you are assuming the quantity and quality of these books suffice. You also ignore the point that there is no official structure educating the children and masses about the Holocaust.

>I believe, the holocaust has actually eclipsed the hurban bet hamkidash as the theme of the day on Tisha Bav.

- Interesting statement – well coined. I couldn’t agree or disagree regarding the Modern Orthodox institutions. If you are correct among then you must realize that the Holocaust wasn’t a long time ago, the people effected are/were our family members and neighbors and the volume of horror has no equal. As far as the Charedis go I can and will disagree with you.

All the best,

Shragie

11:29 AM  
Blogger Shragie said...

Amshinover,

You da Ish

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Stoliner said...

It may very well be so that: according to Anonymous- "nearly every frum woman reads Artscroll/Feldheim/CIS holocaust books" (sic) and I assume that Anonymous meant to include those fine publications depicting starving bones such as 'Vogue' et al... in her broad charactarization of frum women,but what about our children - what is available for them to read and how can we relate the importance to them of the need to understand what happened?

1:57 PM  
Blogger Shragie said...

Stoliner,

Percisely

6:20 PM  

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